Travis Kalanick

And Dave, it's like, it either does that or it really, really doesn't. Or it does like the exact super nasty, really bad. That's right.

But the thing is, it's like that whole thing of like, it's going to get to five and a half before it comes down. It's like, it spirals on itself. It's like, you got to print money to then get to that place. And then the printing drives it for, you know, you get to that spiral.

But the thing is, it's like that whole thing of like, it's going to get to five and a half before it comes down. It's like, it spirals on itself. It's like, you got to print money to then get to that place. And then the printing drives it for, you know, you get to that spiral.

But Shamath, it just doesn't work like that, man. My thing is, I agree with the notion, but I just don't believe that any individual congressperson will take responsibility in this way.

But Shamath, it just doesn't work like that, man. My thing is, I agree with the notion, but I just don't believe that any individual congressperson will take responsibility in this way.

Yeah. Or put another way, again, the executive branch can slow roll spend in a lot of different ways.

Yeah. Or put another way, again, the executive branch can slow roll spend in a lot of different ways.

That was a lot of fun, guys. First time. It's my first time on a podcast ever.

That was a lot of fun, guys. First time. It's my first time on a podcast ever.

You were great.

You were great.

Appreciate it.

Appreciate it.