Travis Kalanick

You're leading the witness.

You're leading the witness.

Right. But the crazy part is, is it could just be electricity production and electric capacity on the grid could be the gating factor that makes it a slow burn. Potentially. I'm just riffing here, guys. Right, right, right.

Right. But the crazy part is, is it could just be electricity production and electric capacity on the grid could be the gating factor that makes it a slow burn. Potentially. I'm just riffing here, guys. Right, right, right.

You go energy storage, electric grid upgrades, sort of modular energy capacity upgrades and production. This is going to be very, very important. Right now, if you want to, I mean, we do this all the time. We have, of course, facilities all over every major city in the US and really around the world.

You go energy storage, electric grid upgrades, sort of modular energy capacity upgrades and production. This is going to be very, very important. Right now, if you want to, I mean, we do this all the time. We have, of course, facilities all over every major city in the US and really around the world.

utility upgrades is the long pole in the tent in construction development in a lot of our cities, not all cities, but in a lot of our cities.

utility upgrades is the long pole in the tent in construction development in a lot of our cities, not all cities, but in a lot of our cities.

And then it's like, what are these auctions going to look like, guys? This is the thing we all got to believe.

And then it's like, what are these auctions going to look like, guys? This is the thing we all got to believe.

And Dave, it's like, it either does that or it really, really doesn't. Or it does like the exact super nasty, really bad. That's right.

And Dave, it's like, it either does that or it really, really doesn't. Or it does like the exact super nasty, really bad. That's right.

But the thing is, it's like that whole thing of like, it's going to get to five and a half before it comes down. It's like, it spirals on itself. It's like, you got to print money to then get to that place. And then the printing drives it for, you know, you get to that spiral.

But the thing is, it's like that whole thing of like, it's going to get to five and a half before it comes down. It's like, it spirals on itself. It's like, you got to print money to then get to that place. And then the printing drives it for, you know, you get to that spiral.

But Shamath, it just doesn't work like that, man. My thing is, I agree with the notion, but I just don't believe that any individual congressperson will take responsibility in this way.

But Shamath, it just doesn't work like that, man. My thing is, I agree with the notion, but I just don't believe that any individual congressperson will take responsibility in this way.

Yeah. Or put another way, again, the executive branch can slow roll spend in a lot of different ways.

Yeah. Or put another way, again, the executive branch can slow roll spend in a lot of different ways.

That was a lot of fun, guys. First time. It's my first time on a podcast ever.

That was a lot of fun, guys. First time. It's my first time on a podcast ever.