Travis Kitchens
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caves in the ancient greek mind yeah she writes all about divine mania and plato and uh the the she goes through all of this literature much like hillman does and she finds uh these instances of people conjuring altered states of consciousness and she's written a ton about this it's it's really interesting wow yeah so do you think that these ancient mystery cults
caves in the ancient greek mind yeah she writes all about divine mania and plato and uh the the she goes through all of this literature much like hillman does and she finds uh these instances of people conjuring altered states of consciousness and she's written a ton about this it's it's really interesting wow yeah so do you think that these ancient mystery cults
caves in the ancient greek mind yeah she writes all about divine mania and plato and uh the the she goes through all of this literature much like hillman does and she finds uh these instances of people conjuring altered states of consciousness and she's written a ton about this it's it's really interesting wow yeah so do you think that these ancient mystery cults
Well, I don't think there's any. There's no evidence that it spawned Christianity.
Well, I don't think there's any. There's no evidence that it spawned Christianity.
Well, I don't think there's any. There's no evidence that it spawned Christianity.
People that study this for a living don't think so. But what they do admit, which seems really significant, is that they did borrow language from it. They are mysteries. Jesus was, in some of this stuff, a hierophant. He was portrayed. You've got to remember what they're pulling from. They're pulling from a vast literature to where Jesus is portrayed in all different kinds of ways.
People that study this for a living don't think so. But what they do admit, which seems really significant, is that they did borrow language from it. They are mysteries. Jesus was, in some of this stuff, a hierophant. He was portrayed. You've got to remember what they're pulling from. They're pulling from a vast literature to where Jesus is portrayed in all different kinds of ways.
People that study this for a living don't think so. But what they do admit, which seems really significant, is that they did borrow language from it. They are mysteries. Jesus was, in some of this stuff, a hierophant. He was portrayed. You've got to remember what they're pulling from. They're pulling from a vast literature to where Jesus is portrayed in all different kinds of ways.
Early Christianity was in this larger context next to these things. Whenever you're trying to recruit people for a cult, so St. Paul, when you're trying to recruit people to your religion, and they say, look, we've got Asclepius. He heals people. He does all these things we like. Why would we come to your side? Of course they're going to say, well, our guy heals too. What does your guy do?
Early Christianity was in this larger context next to these things. Whenever you're trying to recruit people for a cult, so St. Paul, when you're trying to recruit people to your religion, and they say, look, we've got Asclepius. He heals people. He does all these things we like. Why would we come to your side? Of course they're going to say, well, our guy heals too. What does your guy do?
Early Christianity was in this larger context next to these things. Whenever you're trying to recruit people for a cult, so St. Paul, when you're trying to recruit people to your religion, and they say, look, we've got Asclepius. He heals people. He does all these things we like. Why would we come to your side? Of course they're going to say, well, our guy heals too. What does your guy do?
Well, we can do all that too, so come here. And they absolutely were doing that. The last major pagan god to fall was Asclepius. He was the healer. There were temples all over the Roman Empire and ancient Greece to where they would come in and they would give incubation therapy, which were basically drug-induced mystical experiences. And there were also snakes in there.
Well, we can do all that too, so come here. And they absolutely were doing that. The last major pagan god to fall was Asclepius. He was the healer. There were temples all over the Roman Empire and ancient Greece to where they would come in and they would give incubation therapy, which were basically drug-induced mystical experiences. And there were also snakes in there.
Well, we can do all that too, so come here. And they absolutely were doing that. The last major pagan god to fall was Asclepius. He was the healer. There were temples all over the Roman Empire and ancient Greece to where they would come in and they would give incubation therapy, which were basically drug-induced mystical experiences. And there were also snakes in there.
There were labyrinth snakes, all kinds of stuff. And that was the last pagan god that Christianity had to kind of topple before it of total and complete triumph.
There were labyrinth snakes, all kinds of stuff. And that was the last pagan god that Christianity had to kind of topple before it of total and complete triumph.
There were labyrinth snakes, all kinds of stuff. And that was the last pagan god that Christianity had to kind of topple before it of total and complete triumph.
Yeah, but you can trace the foundations on which these ideas were built. So the idea of rising and dying gods is from James George Frazier's book, The Golden Bow, which is a very... Very famous book. But when you look back at books like this, like The Golden Bow, a lot of it doesn't stand up to modern historical standards.
Yeah, but you can trace the foundations on which these ideas were built. So the idea of rising and dying gods is from James George Frazier's book, The Golden Bow, which is a very... Very famous book. But when you look back at books like this, like The Golden Bow, a lot of it doesn't stand up to modern historical standards.