Travis Kitchens

So, no, there is no scientific explanation for it. None. That's insane to me.

It is. And that's what drives my, even though I know, and Roland said, look, we're not going to figure it out anytime soon. In your lifetime, Travis, ain't going to happen.

It is. And that's what drives my, even though I know, and Roland said, look, we're not going to figure it out anytime soon. In your lifetime, Travis, ain't going to happen.

It is. And that's what drives my, even though I know, and Roland said, look, we're not going to figure it out anytime soon. In your lifetime, Travis, ain't going to happen.

Yes. Well, in some of the criticism, you notice I put both sides. I put people who criticize this and I put boosters like Ralph Wood that says, the problem with psychedelic research is it's too conservative. We should, he believes, Ralph, who helped design the Hopkins studies, who's the expert on serpent handling, he says, we need to open up the possibility.

Yes. Well, in some of the criticism, you notice I put both sides. I put people who criticize this and I put boosters like Ralph Wood that says, the problem with psychedelic research is it's too conservative. We should, he believes, Ralph, who helped design the Hopkins studies, who's the expert on serpent handling, he says, we need to open up the possibility.

Yes. Well, in some of the criticism, you notice I put both sides. I put people who criticize this and I put boosters like Ralph Wood that says, the problem with psychedelic research is it's too conservative. We should, he believes, Ralph, who helped design the Hopkins studies, who's the expert on serpent handling, he says, we need to open up the possibility.

The scientists are going, well, that's obviously delusion or mental illness. You didn't come into contact with anything. He says, that's bullshit. That's anti-scientific. It's a bias against religion. We need to be open to the possibility that these are alternate dimensions. You can go and look at the shamans and they say, how'd you figure out how to make ayahuasca?

The scientists are going, well, that's obviously delusion or mental illness. You didn't come into contact with anything. He says, that's bullshit. That's anti-scientific. It's a bias against religion. We need to be open to the possibility that these are alternate dimensions. You can go and look at the shamans and they say, how'd you figure out how to make ayahuasca?

The scientists are going, well, that's obviously delusion or mental illness. You didn't come into contact with anything. He says, that's bullshit. That's anti-scientific. It's a bias against religion. We need to be open to the possibility that these are alternate dimensions. You can go and look at the shamans and they say, how'd you figure out how to make ayahuasca?

Well, the snake told me or the jaguar told me. And everybody laughs, but we don't know where they got it from.

Well, the snake told me or the jaguar told me. And everybody laughs, but we don't know where they got it from.

Well, the snake told me or the jaguar told me. And everybody laughs, but we don't know where they got it from.

It absolutely is. It absolutely is. And, you know, William James said, well, it's fruits, not roots. Who cares where it comes from? I mean, he didn't say if it helps people, you know, pragmatism says if they thought they talked to God and that made them want to be a better person, who gives a damn if it's a delusion or not? Right. They became a better person. The fruits of the experience.

It absolutely is. It absolutely is. And, you know, William James said, well, it's fruits, not roots. Who cares where it comes from? I mean, he didn't say if it helps people, you know, pragmatism says if they thought they talked to God and that made them want to be a better person, who gives a damn if it's a delusion or not? Right. They became a better person. The fruits of the experience.

It absolutely is. It absolutely is. And, you know, William James said, well, it's fruits, not roots. Who cares where it comes from? I mean, he didn't say if it helps people, you know, pragmatism says if they thought they talked to God and that made them want to be a better person, who gives a damn if it's a delusion or not? Right. They became a better person. The fruits of the experience.

If it comes from drugs, good. But what I'm afraid, I think here's the major point with me and you. What I'm afraid is that novelty is being elevated above morality and that we're forgetting about the moral parts of this whenever, because it's so weird, because it's so new, because it's so like, wow. Wow, this is amazing. These experiences are amazing.

If it comes from drugs, good. But what I'm afraid, I think here's the major point with me and you. What I'm afraid is that novelty is being elevated above morality and that we're forgetting about the moral parts of this whenever, because it's so weird, because it's so new, because it's so like, wow. Wow, this is amazing. These experiences are amazing.

If it comes from drugs, good. But what I'm afraid, I think here's the major point with me and you. What I'm afraid is that novelty is being elevated above morality and that we're forgetting about the moral parts of this whenever, because it's so weird, because it's so new, because it's so like, wow. Wow, this is amazing. These experiences are amazing.

We have to be careful when people are making moral claims that these drugs, which is a claim that Roland made and what they were looking into. They believe that these experiences transform people morally and ethically. And that's the basis of all of these wild claims. newspaper claims and media claims, and it's the basis of the immortality key.