Trenton Bricken

Even if AI progress totally stalls, you think that the models are really spiky and they don't have general intelligence, it's so economically valuable and sufficiently easy to collect data on all of these different jobs, these white-collar job tasks, such that, to Sholto's point, we should expect to see them automated within the next five years.

Did I do this last year?

No, you named us differently, but we didn't have Sholto Bricken and Trenton Douglas.

experimenting with this at the moment yeah absolutely i mean the most public example people could go to today is claude plays pokemon right uh and seeing it struggle in a way that's like kind of painful to watch but each model generation gets further through the game uh and it seems more like a limitation of it being able to use uh memory system yeah than anything else yeah

Yeah, that seems right to me.

I think the distribution's pretty wonky, though.

Yes.

Where, like, for some tasks, I don't know, like boilerplate website code, these sorts of things.

It can bang it out and save you a whole day.

I think- Does the code pass a test?

Does it even run?

Does it compile?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think if we rewind 14 months to when we recorded last time, the nines of reliability was right to me.

Like we didn't have Claude Code.

Yeah.

We didn't have deep research.

All we did was use agents in a chatbot format.

Right.