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Trenton Bricken

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

But I analogize this to the person who's lost their keys and is just looking under the streetlight where it's very easily to observe this behavior.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Um, one leading cognitive neuroscientist said to me that a dirty little secret of any FMRI study where you're looking at brain activity for a given task is that the cerebellum is almost always active and lighting up for it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Um, if you have a damaged cerebellum, you also are much more likely to have autism.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Um, so it's associated with like, um, social skills.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Um, and one of these particular studies where I think they use PET instead of FMRI, but, um, when you're doing next token prediction, the cerebellum lights up a lot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

So I guess the main thing I want to communicate here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

So back in the 1980s, Penti Canerva came up with a associative memory algorithm for I have a bunch of memories.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

I want to store them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

There's some amount of noise or corruption that's going on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And I want to query or retrieve the best match.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And so he writes this equation for how to do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And a few years later realizes that if you implemented this as an electrical engineering circuit, it actually looks identical to the core cerebellar circuit.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And that circuit and the cerebellum more broadly is not just in us, it's in basically every organism.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

There's active debate on whether or not cephalopods have it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

They kind of have a different evolutionary trajectory.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

But even fruit flies with the Drosophila mushroom body, that is the same cerebellar architecture.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And so that convergence and then my paper, which shows that actually this operation is to a very close approximation, the same as the attention operation, including implementing the softmax and having this sort of like nominal quadratic cost that we've been talking about.