Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind
28 Mar 2024
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Okay, today I have the pleasure to talk with two of my good friends, Shilto and Trenton. Shilto.
You should have asked me to stop.
I wasn't going to say anything. Let's do this in reverse. How long have I started with my good friends?
Yeah, Gemini 1.5, the context, like, just wow.
Shit. Anyways, Shoto, Noah Brown... Noam Brown, the guy who wrote the diplomacy paper, he said this about Shilto. He said, he's only been in the field for 1.5 years, but people in AI know that he was one of the most important people behind Gemini's success. And Trenton, who's an anthropic, works on mechanistic interoperability, and it was widely reported that he has solved alignment.
With his recent paper on Twitter.
Yeah. So this will be a capabilities-only podcast. Alignment is already solved, so no need to discuss further. Okay, so let's start by talking about context links.
Yep.
It seemed to be underhyped given how important it seems to me to be that you can just put a million tokens into context. There's apparently some other news that got pushed to the front for some reason. But yeah, tell me about how you see the future of long context links and what that implies for these models.
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