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Trenton Bricken

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

They're trained on so many URLs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Like in the dictionary learning work, we find there are like three separate features for base 64 encodings.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And even that is kind of an alien example that is probably worth me talking about for a minute.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

One of these Base64 features fired for numbers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

If it sees Base64 numbers, it'll predict more of those.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Another fired for letters.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

But then there was this third one that we didn't understand.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And it fired for a very specific subset of Base64 features.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And someone on the team who clearly knows way too much about Base64 realized that this was the subset that was ASCII

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

decodable.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

So you could decode it back into the ASCII characters.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And the fact that the model learned these three different features and it took us a little while to figure out what was going on is very Shoggoth-esque.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

Yeah, and it's clearly doing something that humans wouldn't.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

You can even talk to any of the current models in Base64 and it will apply in Base64.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And you can then decode it and it works great.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

No, no, I mean, you could do that, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

What I was going to say is one technique here is anomaly detection.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

And so one beauty of dictionary learning instead of linear probes is that it's unsupervised.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

You are just trying to learn to span all of the representations that the model has and then interpret them later.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind

But if there's a weird feature that suddenly fires for the first time that you haven't seen fire before...