Trinny Woodall

You know, it was that kind of – we were on such different paths by then.

But this is before we did telly.

But I love building the team.

I didn't feel qualified to do anything, so I hired –

very good people in, but they were people who then gave a direction of what they felt the business should do.

And we'd been invested in by what was our idea, so the idea evolved.

A dot-com bust happened because you had this bubble between 1999 and 2001, and then you had the recession after.

So it was a time when I learnt a lot about what I wouldn't do by that.

But at the end of that,

I was floored.

I was running on empty.

Susanna was now having Esme, her second child.

And I went off to Arizona to a place called Cottonwood.

And it was a rehab, but they had these things called inner path workshops.

And it was one which was for people in recovery who wanted to just...

Just find out the next part of themselves.

And I remember going on this cacti walk by myself.

I remember it so clearly.

And we're now in sort of 2000, 2000, maybe 2001.

The world had decided not to end.