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Begin Again with Davina McCall

Trinny Woodall: Why I Finally Stopped Compromising

14 May 2026

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Chapter 1: How did Trinny Woodall become the person she is today?

0.031 - 8.138 Trinny Woodall

A lot of women are uncomfortable looking in a mirror. Yes. But whatever you feel uncomfortable with, it makes such a difference.

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Chapter 2: What challenges did Trinny face during her upbringing?

8.579 - 13.423 Trinny Woodall

We've had 1.7 million customers at Trinidad. But there was a lot of madness.

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13.443 - 14.744 Davina McCall

Can we talk about that?

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14.884 - 30.038 Trinny Woodall

You started and finished a couple of businesses by your early 20s. Being self-employed is convenient when you have a drug problem because you kind of don't always get up at 8am to go to an office. By the time I was 20, I was using fully and it was slowly eroding my ambitions.

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30.018 - 32.383 Davina McCall

At what point did it become really unmanageable?

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33.386 - 38.678 Trinny Woodall

So much has to be removed from your life for you to think, I will do anything to change my life.

39.079 - 41.283 Davina McCall

I want to talk about being in love.

41.624 - 63.697 Trinny Woodall

There's been tremendous love and amazing experiences and real trauma and ultimately death. So I find it hard. Because of the trauma at the end, I found it really, really challenging to look back and really relish the joy of when it was great. And I think now I can. I spent many years in my life being something for other people.

64.177 - 68.843 Trinny Woodall

But the most important thing for a woman is to decide who I want to be for myself today.

Chapter 3: How did addiction impact Trinny's life and career?

68.863 - 92.203 Davina McCall

Tell us three actionable things that women could do to help themselves today. Trini, I have been literally so excited about this moment. I'm going to start off with a conversation that we had yesterday that really made me laugh. So you call me.

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92.243 - 92.684 Trinny Woodall

Yeah.

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93.184 - 97.569 Davina McCall

I'm somewhere. The phone is on the bed. I can't get to the phone.

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Chapter 4: What was Trinny's journey to recovery like?

98.27 - 131.417 Davina McCall

So I look at Michael and I go, I think I'm going to get that. It could be one of the kids. I pick up my phone. I get back in the bath. So I'm in the bath and I look at my phone and it's you. I FaceTime you back because you FaceTime me. FaceTime me back immediately. I was like, Tony, hi. And you're like, oh, you're in the bath. And just please tell the story about Lila because Lila was so funny.

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131.538 - 153.951 Trinny Woodall

Okay, so I'll tell you. First of all, this is what happened. So Lila comes upstairs and we both got a bit of jet lag so we were away. She comes upstairs, you know, that morning 22-year-old. But she comes up quite animated and she goes... I just had a weird email from Jess. Jess is our lovely lady who runs our PR at Trinity London. About some weird letter I've been asked to write.

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153.971 - 172.474 Trinny Woodall

And I said, I don't know what you're talking about. From this woman, Lavinia. Lavinia. Davina Lila? Yes, Davina. And I've got to write a letter about why I love you. I'm not fucking doing that. And I said, OK, this is news to me.

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Chapter 5: How did Trinny cope with the loss of her partner Johnny?

172.554 - 186.132 Trinny Woodall

So I said, look, I said, you know, I don't know Davina anyway. Who is this weird woman? Who is this weird woman? I said, she's just fabulous. So then I spent a few minutes selling you in and I thought, no, I'll just FaceTime you. I'll just FaceTime you. It's better.

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186.112 - 196.993 Davina McCall

I mean, I'm just going to mention, I just want to mention one thing that you did that made me laugh so much that I never knew about you because you were five. That when you were five, your name wasn't Trinny until you were five.

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Chapter 6: What role did Trinny London play in her personal transformation?

197.013 - 199.097 Trinny Woodall

Yeah, six-ish, yeah.

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199.197 - 216.001 Davina McCall

But you are so Trinny, it's so hilarious. But I had no reason, I had no knowledge of... Knowledge of Sarah Jane. No, and... Like where the word Trinny came from. I was like, oh, my God. This idea that you cut off a girl's plait when you were five.

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Chapter 7: How does Trinny view aging and self-image?

216.081 - 216.441 Trinny Woodall

Yeah.

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216.601 - 219.544 Davina McCall

You're quite naughty. Like that is a big thing to do.

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219.564 - 220.365 Trinny Woodall

Yeah, it is a big thing.

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220.505 - 234.698 Davina McCall

And ballsy. Yeah. And somebody mentioned St Trinnyans, you know, because the naughty kids in St Trinnyans and you got the name Trinny from that. That you went from that to this thing.

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235.589 - 245.902 Trinny Woodall

The journey, your daughter must be very aware of who's... How much do you think kids of 22 are really aware of anything other than themselves?

248.505 - 264.786 Davina McCall

I would almost bank on the idea that she is unbelievably proud of you and sees what you've achieved and knows that you've lost and made and lost and made. She'll know that.

265.576 - 268.303 Trinny Woodall

Yeah, she... Yeah.

268.443 - 272.493 Davina McCall

I think we are all selfish at that age. The world revolves around us.

273.455 - 296.872 Trinny Woodall

But we're not unaware, is what you're saying. But we're not unaware. Yeah, and I think you're right in that regard. I think she is aware and I think that, like, when I even saw... When I saw her Instagram things and I thought one or two must have been inspired by, and she has a great sense of style, Lila. There was some woman who, you know how you suddenly get occasional comments on DMs?

Chapter 8: What advice does Trinny have for women seeking happiness?

404.956 - 427.71 Trinny Woodall

And my mother didn't have a career. I don't know if your mother had a career. So my mum started lots of stuff, but not proper careers, just started like a secondhand furniture company. Cloth kits, which was this cut up clothing you could do. You know, she became a rep for cloth kits, you know, just little things she'd start because I think she felt sort of lonely in her life.

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428.792 - 435.744 Trinny Woodall

And my dad was challenging and she... I sometimes went to bed thinking, God, I wish they were divorced.

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436.766 - 445.236 Davina McCall

It's really interesting that. I think that's such a big one for people to hear that because kids do think that.

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445.396 - 471.309 Trinny Woodall

They do think that. It's, you know, so many parents think let's stay together until they're 18 and kids pick up so much shit. But just going back to this thing of what we inherit and what makes us motivated. So I think that's quite interesting because with my parents... My dad was really successful when he was younger. And then when I was about 16, his luck changed. So he was not.

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471.429 - 487.185 Trinny Woodall

And then he was disillusioned in his life. So that was the trajectory of my father. Incredibly successful, came from not much, did really well, had a few lucky breaks in his 20s, but really did well. He ran a bank in the end. disillusionment when he's sort of 60.

487.746 - 493.785 Davina McCall

How was he just very quickly after that change? Was he a difficult man to live with?

495.811 - 524.244 Trinny Woodall

It's challenging for me to look at My dad and know him well. It's really difficult because my father had three children and then divorced and then met my mother and had three children. And I'm the youngest. And he didn't see his older children that much, even though they lived abroad, but at some stage they moved 50 miles from us. And I once asked him, how come you didn't see them?

524.284 - 539.964 Trinny Woodall

And he was like, well, times are different then. And I thought, my God, they were only 50 miles away and you didn't see them that much. And at certain stages, they came to live with us when they were sort of unhappy. Different members of them came to live with us because there was challenges at home. They had a very challenging home life. So there was a lot of kind of complication.

540.004 - 557.779 Trinny Woodall

But because I was the youngest, I... And I was, for a little bit when I was younger, I wasn't very well. I had a low blood cell count and they didn't know what it was. So I was sort of spoiled a bit by my mum, which I kind of ended up really resenting. Oh, you resented it? In the end, I couldn't bear it.

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