Tristan Harris

I don't want the future that that creates.

In 2013, Mark Zuckerberg could have said,

And I'm going to try to create some rules that say no autoplaying videos, no infinite scroll.

No one can create unnecessary FOMO.

You can't dole out like a few likes here and then a few likes there like a slot machine.

You have to do them all at the end of the day or something like that.

Like you can create rules and norms so that we didn't get the mass addiction distraction machine that we then did get.

And he could have done that in 2012, 2013.

That's what leadership, that's what maturity, that's what wisdom would have done.

It's not that hard to see it.

So like I could kill you and steal your stuff and just take your money, but I'd prefer to live in, and everyone could do that.

And that'd be a faster way to like get money.

It's like just everybody kills everybody, grabs their money.

But that would create a society that's chaos.

So instead, I sacrifice some of my abilities like I can't kill people.

And instead, we have law that we all sort of notch down some of our individual capability so that we get to live in a society that we actually want to live in.

And that's what this would do.

So in 2013, if Mark Zuckerberg had said,

I'm going to convene, you know, uh, musically, which was before Tik TOK, um, Twitter and the other ones.

And we're like, okay, look, it is so obvious.