Tristan Harris
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We're in this arms race for attention, just like public utilities, which by the way, if like in California, it'd be PG and E in Texas.
What's your electricity provider.
It's like, fuck knows.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I have no idea what my electricity.
Okay.
Well, technically energy companies have an incentive to maximize revenue.
So theoretically they're like, leave the lights on, leave the stove on, like do the water 24 seven because we make more money when we do that.
But because public utilities rely on a scarce resource called energy that has environmental emissions that we have to deal with, there's a decoupling of revenue from their incentive.
So, for example, in California...
You're charged a base rate for like the initial energy you use.
And then once you're hitting kind of the capacity that would be straining the system, we start to charge you more.
But that extra revenue doesn't go just into PG&E, the energy company's pocket.
It goes into a fund to have more clean energy to offset it and create more energy capacity.
So with attention, you could say instead of companies maximizing attention and driving revenue,
You get to make money from the initial tier one of attention that you're getting.
And then after that, the resources go into a common pool that's investing in the research, the XPRIZES, the design solutions that research and show that there's different ways of doing news feeds.
There's different ways.
We could have news feeds that are all about directing you back towards community.