Tristan Harris

That's a good question.

What is AI?

And no matter how many times people try and explain this to me, I just don't get how it's understanding all of these things and how it's feeling like intelligence.

And that's kind of nerve-wracking.

And when they're smarter than us, too, and substantially faster than us, and they're getting faster each year exponentially, those are the ones that can potentially become superhuman, possibly this decade.

Superintelligence is a system that by itself is more intelligent and competent than all of humanity.

I'm just gonna, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you.

You're on a flow.

I just, I just, I'm not really following, because you're using language like super intelligence and like smarter than all of humanity, and I hear that, and it sounds like sci-fi bullshit to me, and I'm just...

trying to understand uh hopefully we can have a very symbiotic relationship uh with ai systems but the ai developers are specifically designing them to make sure that they can do everything better than we can so i don't know what what we will be able to offer unfortunately that sounds bad well daniel is in europe working on his next film so he's joining us via zoom hi daniel

Hi, Oprah.

How are you?

So good today and happy to talk to you.

And the audience here has just seen your film.

You started this project not knowing a lot about AI, as you say in the film.

So why did you want to make this?

Well, first and foremost, Oprah, thank you so much for having me.

This conversation is so meaningful.

Why did I want to make this movie?

I was scared.