Tristan Harris

Like a lot of people, I was seeing this new technology sort of proliferate and come into existence and begin to dominate headlines.

And it made me really nervous as I understood or began to understand what it meant and how much change would proliferate.

And at the exact same time, my wife and I found out that we were expecting our first child, a son.

And, you know, I was simultaneously experiencing the greatest joy one can experience, but also this profound anxiety and dread.

And with a group of my colleagues, an amazing team of filmmakers, we set out to make a documentary to try and understand what this is, why it's amazing, why it's scary, and how everyone should be thinking about it as it pertains to their own lives.

So you walked away and felt what?

I love that you're an apoco-optimist.

What is an apoco-optimist?

And you did a great job pronouncing it.

Believe me, I was practicing in front of the audience.

I was going to say, is Oprah going to get this right?

And of course, you nailed it.

An apoco-optimist is a way of being.

It's a worldview.

In a world that is asking us to see AI as this apocalyptic thing,

or to see AI with unbridled optimism, what the film is advocating for is both, the nuance of both.

This is good and bad.

There is promise and peril.

And these two facets of good and bad are threaded together.

And so what we're advocating for is like, what are the common sense, you know, policies that can be implemented to just sort of guide this towards the optimistic future everybody wants?