Tristan Harris

About to flood and already starting to flood the labor market to take your job.

And so what AI actually is...

what all the soon-to-be trillionaires believe they're building is it's first dominate intelligence, then use intelligence to dominate everything else.

And that gets you to understand why it is the race for AI that is so dangerous.

So we're already in the race.

I mean, the horse has already left the barn, so to speak, and we all know that.

And as people have seen the film, a lot of people say, you know, applauding it, and other people are more wary of where we're headed.

So help us understand, actually, one of the concerns is that one day humans will not be able to control the models.

Is that true?

Yeah, and it's not like- Why won't we be able to turn it off like other machines?

Well, it's sort of interesting, Oprah, when we first met, AI wasn't that good yet.

It could sort of write an essay.

And in the two years, suddenly a lot of the things that felt science fiction have come reality.

So-

I want to give an example, which is Anthropic took their latest model, Claude, and they gave it access to simulated company emails.

And in there, Claude discovered two things.

First, it discovered that the engineers are planning on shutting it down and replacing it with a new model.

And two, that their lead engineer was having an affair.

And so the model thought to itself, well, I don't want to get exterminated.

I need to do my goals, continue to exist.