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Tristan Harris

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
5633 total appearances

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The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

So it decided to blackmail the lead engineer and actually wrote the email.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And if it wasn't simulated, it would have sent it off.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

People might think, okay, so there's a bug in the technology.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

We just have to stop it from blackmailing.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And how did Claude know he was having an affair?

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

So in the simulated company email, there was an email showing that the guy was having an affair with someone else.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And so the AI read through the whole company's email, found that fact and said, oh, I know if I threaten that person, I will be able to prevent myself from getting shut off.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Wow.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

This is the most powerful technology we have ever invented.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

You would think with the basic sort of Spider-Man principle of with great power comes great responsibility, that we would be exercising the most care, caution, and restraint that we have with any technology.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

But because of the arms race dynamic that you mentioned, the companies are currently releasing it as fast as possible and cutting every shortcut and even erasing past red lines that they said they would never pass.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

We're in the race because we don't want them to get ahead of us.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Exactly.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Okay, so what do you want us to do?

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

We can't stop the race.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Or can we?

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Well, I think we... So, first of all, this is the hardest coordination and governance challenge of technology in all of human history.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Yeah.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

That means that we have to be, as I said in the trailer, the wisest and most mature version of ourselves.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

This is gonna take us stepping up.