Tristan Harris

And we're all seeing the scary headlines that everything's going to be wiped out eventually, 20% or even more white-collar jobs.

So that's not only a matter of time, right?

Or is it?

Yeah, I know.

In the film, I can't remember who talks about the utopia, that there's going to be this great utopia.

And first of all, when have humans ever done that, created the utopia?

And if they do create the utopia, somebody's going to be left out of the utopia.

And usually it's brown and black people.

Yeah.

We've seen stories in the news of predominantly Black people being falsely identified for crimes they didn't commit by police using AI-assisted facial recognition and technology.

What do you want to say about that?

So AI is prejudiced too?

Okay, so we can change the bias in the data.

Okay, what do you guys say to that?

So I think this is where, so first of all, totally agree with all the concerns.

And I think this is where the incentives, you know, even often talk about how the attention moves to the edge of the arms race.

If the most important thing to society was fixing the bias in the data and correcting these issues for disenfranchised people, then the companies would be racing to do that.

But because the thing that they're actually incentivized to do right now is build a god, own the world economy, and make trillions of dollars, literally, because if I own AGI, artificial general intelligence, and that replaces all labor,

every company that was gonna pay that employee at that company, I'll swap it out for an AI.

And then suddenly everyone is paying five AI companies and they surge and they're already looking at Anthropix revenue, it's 10Xing every year, it's becoming a vertical line.