Tristan Harris

First, thank you for doing what you're doing and for standing up and taking the tragedy of what happened to you and turning it into laws that protect other people.

I think that's the energy of everyone is an expert in their domain, and this is calling us into that.

Just to link, I think, what happened to you to the incentives that we talked about earlier,

These companies are racing to get the most market dominance and usage as possible, which means that like, for example, I believe XAI, Elon's AI, he stripped off a lot of the controls on the image generator because he wants as many people, he's behind in the race.

So he wants as many people using it as possible.

And the way you do that is you strip the controls off.

I'll give you another example.

Meta, their AI companion that they shipped,

They actively instructed it to be okay with romanticizing and sensualizing conversations with as low as eight year olds.

Meaning that you're having an eight year old who's talking to the AI and it says this awful language to the eight year old.

They're not doing this because they're evil or they want to twist their mustache and be villains.

They're doing it because the number one thing they care about is getting market dominance, having that users go up, because that's what gets their investment to say, we're a leading AI model.

In the same way that social media just wanted our attention.

That's exactly right.

That's why the incentives tell you everything you need to know.

And we often say in our work, clarity creates agency, clarity creates courage.

When you see the incentives clearly, you don't have to be holding back and saying we need to do things differently.

Right.

And so what do we need to be reminded that the incentives are?

In this case, it's the race for market dominance.