Tristan Harris

It makes people kind of go more narcissistically grand and delusional and it's causing a lot of problems.

Well, that leads me to Laura Riley.

Laura wrote a powerful op-ed in the New York Times.

It was titled, What My Daughter Told ChatGPT Before She Took Her Life.

Hi, Laura.

Thank you for being here.

Can you tell us what happened?

And so she had no right to feel bad.

And when you discovered that, what did it do for you and all who loved her?

And for a lot of people, it is working for them.

First of all, we're so sorry to hear that story.

Really.

Thank you for being brave enough to come and share it.

Hopefully it will help someone else.

Guys, what do you want to say to that?

Yeah, there's just also to say I'm so sorry.

I think what this points to is sort of to your point, there could be an incredible future.

Like we could be using AI to in a safe way, start helping with therapy.

We could be using AI in a safe way to work on climate change, desalinate oceans, all of that.

But is that really what the AI's company's goals is?