Tristan Harris

Is that their incentives?

It's not, they're getting all of these things as side effects.

And their goal, their incentive is to maximize number of users.

So, you know, there's this graph that I always come back to because I think today we're going to hear a number of examples where AI does really atrocious things and other examples where AI does really incredible, helpful things.

And there's this one graph from the Reserve Bank of Dallas, which is sort of a funny neutral party.

And they sort of are projecting out how AI is going to go.

And it goes sort of like this.

There's one graph that goes up to like world of positive infinity abundance.

And there's this other graph that goes down to like the humans don't make it.

And the question is, which one are we gonna get?

And it's so confusing, as you pointed out, because

we're getting simultaneous utopia and dystopia.

And how do we reason about that?

It's almost as if we have an atomic weapon that can also solve cancer.

Like, what do you do with something like that?

It's very confusing.

And this is where we always have to come back to the incentives because it's hopeful actors that are gonna do a lot of work to try to make that top line go up

And it's going to be market competitive dynamics and incentives that draw the bottom line lower.

And unless we can do something about that bottom line incentive, we're just going to get more and more cases.

They're going to get wild and wilder at larger and larger scales, like what happened in your family.