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Tristan Harris

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

Because in an abstract sense, it's not that motivating.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

When I think about me and my kids, it anchors this discussion about AI in terms of the things that people most care about, which is their family.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

So then the film...

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

After the director sort of is confronted by all this and he gets overwhelmed and he kind of freaks out to his wife thinking, oh, my God, I don't know what to do.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

And she says, you have to go find hope.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

And so he turns around and he goes out and he talks to all the AI optimists.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

So this is Peter Diamandis.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

This is, you know, Guillaume Verdun, who's Beth Jesus, otherwise known as online, basically the tech accelerationists and people who think that our biggest risk is not going fast enough.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

Think of all the people with cancer or all the people whose lives that we won't be able to save if we don't make AI faster than we're making it right now.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

My reaction, I think going sort of a step back, there's a thing in AI that we have to acknowledge there's an asymmetry.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

The upsides don't prevent the downsides.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

The downsides can undermine a world that can sustain the upsides.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

So for example, the cancer drugs can't prevent a new biological pathogen that's designed to wipe out humanity.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

But the biological pathogen that can wipe out humanity undermines a world in which cancer drugs are relevant at all.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

AI generating GDP growth of 10, 15% because it's automating all science, all technology development, all military development, automating abundance sounds great.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

But if the same AI that can do that also generates cyber weapons that can take down the entire financial system...

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

which one of those things matter more?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

15% GDP growth or the thing that can undermine the basis of money and GDP at all?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

So it's very important.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#469 โ€” Escaping an Anti-Human Future

The film doesn't actually make this point.