Tristan Harris

India and Pakistan were in a shooting war in the 1960s, and they signed the Indus Water Treaty to collaborate on the existential safety of their water supply.

That treaty lasted for 60 years.

So the point here is when we have enough of a view that there's a shared existential outcome that we have to avoid, countries can collaborate.

We've done hard things before.

Part of this is snapping out of the amnesia.

And again, this sort of spell of everything is inevitable.

We can do something about it.

Absolutely.

So let's really dive into this.

So you're right that AI is a distinct kind of technology and has different factors and more ubiquitously available than nuclear weapons, which required uranium and plutonium.

Exactly.

But, hey, it looked for a moment when we first invented nuclear bombs, that this is just knowledge that everyone's going to have.

And there's no way we can stop it.

And 150 countries are going to get nukes.

And then that didn't happen.

And it wasn't obvious to people at that moment.

I want people to relate.

So there you are.

It seems obvious that everyone's going to get this.

How in the world could we stop it?