Tristan Harris

Because I want people to notice that what's driving this whole race that we're in right now is the belief that everything that's happening is inevitable.

There's no way to stop it.

Someone's going to build it.

If I don't build it, someone else will.

And then no one tries to do anything to get to a different future.

And so we all just kind of hide in denial from where we're currently heading.

And I want people to actually confront that reality so that we can actually actively choose to steer to a different direction.

We've decided we don't want to do that.

We have faced technological arms races before from nuclear weapons.

And, you know, what do we do there?

If you go back, there's a great video from, I think, the 1960s where Robert Oppenheimer was asked, you know, how do we stop the spread of nuclear weapons?

And he takes a big puff of his cigarette and he says, it's too late.

If you wanted to stop it, you would have had to stop the day after Trinity.

But he was wrong.

20 years later, we did do arms control talks and we worked all that time and only nine countries have nuclear weapons instead of 150.

That's a huge, serious accomplishment.

Westinghouse and General Electric could have made billions of dollars selling nuclear technology to the whole world

keep keyword here being like NVIDIA.

But we said, hey, no, that's actually, even though there's billions of dollars of revenue there, that would create a fragility and the risk of nuclear catastrophes that we don't want to do.

We have done hard things before in the Montreal Protocol.