Tristan Harris

Absolutely.

So let's really dive into this.

So you're right that AI is a distinct kind of technology and has different factors and more ubiquitously available than nuclear weapons, which required uranium and plutonium.

Exactly.

But, hey, it looked for a moment when we first invented nuclear bombs, that this is just knowledge that everyone's going to have.

And there's no way we can stop it.

And 150 countries are going to get nukes.

And then that didn't happen.

And it wasn't obvious to people at that moment.

I want people to relate.

So there you are.

It seems obvious that everyone's going to get this.

How in the world could we stop it?

Did we even conceptualize the seismic monitoring equipment and the satellites that could look at

people's build-outs of nuclear technology and tracking the sources of uranium around the world and having intelligence agents and tracking nuclear scientists.

We had to build a whole global infrastructure, the International Atomic Energy Agency, to deal with the problem of nuclear proliferation.

What uranium was for the spread of nuclear weapons, these advanced NVIDIA chips are for building the most advanced AI.

Yes, some rogue actor can have a small AI model doing something small,

but only the big actors can do something with this, like the bigger, more risky, closer to AGI level technology.

And have we spent, you know, people say it's impossible to do something else, but has anybody saying that actually spent more than a week, like dedicatedly trying to think about and conceptualize what that infrastructure could be?