Tristan Harris

And humane technology would be trying to garden the relationship I have with myself.

So things more like meditation apps where that's deepening my relationship to myself.

Do not disturb is help deepening my relationship to myself.

Instead of AIs that are trying to replace friendship, we have AIs that are trying to augment friendship.

Things like Partiful or Moments or Luma, things that are trying to get people together in physical spaces or find my friends on Apple.

There's a hundred examples of this stuff being done in a way that's gardening the relationship between people.

And then you have Audrey Tang's work of gardening the relationship between political tribes, where you're actually showing and reflecting back all the positive and visible areas of consensus and unlikely agreement across political division.

And that took Taiwan from, I believe, like 7% trust in government to something like 40% trust in government over the course of the decade that they implemented her solutions on finding this kind of bridge ranking.

And that could be deployed across our whole system.

So there's totally a different way that all of this can work if we got clear that we don't want the current trajectory that we're on.

I appreciate that.

And I think that there are paid actors that I could identify over the course of the last many years.

I've been doing this, Scott, for, you know, what, 12 years now or something like that.

We started the Center for Humane Technology in 2017.

I just care about things going well.

I care about life.

I care about connection.

I care about a world that's beautiful.

I know that that exists.

I experience it in the communities that I'm a part of.