Tristan Harris

And I'll tell you, you and I both know people who've had private conversations.

Well, one of them that I have heard from one of the co-founders of one of the most powerful of these companies, when faced with the idea that what if there's an 80% or 20% chance that everybody dies and gets wiped out by this, but an 80% chance that we get utopia, he said, well, I would clearly accelerate and go for the utopia.

Given a 20% chance.

It's crazy.

People should feel you do not get to make that choice on behalf of me and my family.

We didn't consent to have six people make that decision on behalf of 8 billion people.

We have to stop pretending that this is okay or normal.

It's not normal.

And the only way that this is happening and they're getting away with it is because most people just don't really know what's going on.

But I'm curious, what do you think?

Yes.

That's what I had heard in this particular situation.

It wasn't like... It was a matter of fact.

It was just easy.

Yeah, of course I would roll the dice.

And even Elon Musk said... He actually said the same number in an interview with Joe Rogan.

And if you listen closely when he said...

I decided I'd rather be there when it all happens.

If it all goes off the rails, I decided in that worst case scenario, I decided that I'd prefer to be there when it happens.

Which is justifying racing to our collective suicide.