Tristan Harris

So if I do cognitive behavioral therapy, I'm not screwing with your attachment system.

We can have mandatory testing.

Currently, the companies are not mandated to do that safety testing.

We can have common safety standards that they all do.

we can have common transparency measures so that the public and the world's leading governments know what's going on inside these AI labs, especially before this recursive self-improvement threshold.

So that if we need to negotiate treaties between the largest countries on this,

they will have the information that they need to make that possible.

We can have stronger whistleblower protections so that if you're a whistleblower and currently your incentives are, I would lose all of my stock options if I told the world the truth and those stock options are going up every day, we can empower whistleblowers with ways of sharing that information that don't risk losing their stock options.

So there's a whole, and we can have, instead of building general, inscrutable, autonomous, like dangerous AI that we don't know how to control, that blackmails people and is self-aware and copies its own code, we can build narrow AI systems that are about actually applied to the things that we want more of.

So, you know, making stronger and more efficient agriculture, better manufacturing, better educational services that would actually boost those areas of our economy without creating this risk that we don't know how to control.

So there's a totally different way to do this if we were crystal clear that the current path is unacceptable.

Let's not make it theoretical then because it's so important that it's just all crystal clear in here right now.

But that is the challenge you're talking about is that we have to make a choice to go on a different path before we get to the outcome of this path.

Because with AI, it's an exponential.

So you either act too early or too late, but it's happening so quickly.

You don't want to wait until the last moment to act.

And so I thought you were going to go in the direction where you talked about grandma, you know, getting sucked into conspiracies on social media.

The longer we wait with AI, it is part of the AI psychosis phenomenon.

It's driving AI cults and AI religions where people feel that the actual way out of this is to protect the AI and that the AI is going to solve all of our problems.

There's some people who believe that, by the way, that the best way out of this is that AI will run the world and run humanity because we're so bad at governing it ourselves.