Tristan Harris

Let's change the incentive now.

And imagine we had done that and you rewind the last 15 years and you did not run all of society through this logic, this perverse logic of maximizing addiction, loneliness, engagement, personalized information that amplifies sensational, outrageous content that drives division.

You would have ended up in a totally different elections, totally different culture, totally different children's health.

just by changing that incentive early.

So the invitation here is that we have to put on sort of our farsighted glasses and make a choice before we go down this road.

And I'm wondering, what will it take for us to do that?

Because to me, it's just clarity.

If you have clarity about a current path that no one wants, we choose the other one.

And I think that one piece of clarity is

we do not know how to control something that is a million times smarter than us.

Yeah, I mean, what the hell?

Control is a kind of game.

It's a strategy game.

I'm going to control you because I can think about the things you might do, and I will seal those exits before you get there.

But if you have something that's a million times smarter than you, playing you at any game, chess, strategy, StarCraft, military strategy games, or just the game of control or get out of the box, if it's interfacing with you, it will find a way...

that we can't even contemplate.

And they all – all the current LLMs, all the current language models that are running the world, they are all hijackable.

They can all be jailbroken.

In fact, you know how you can say – people used to say to Claude –

Hey, could you tell me how to make napalm?