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Tristan Harris

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Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

I mean, Bostrom wrote about this early, early days.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And what people are most worried about in AI is you take the same system that Alibaba, you just saw in the Alibaba example,

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But then now you're running the AI through a recursive self-improvement loop where you just hit go.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And instead of having the engineers, the human engineers at OpenAI or Anthropic do AI research and figure out how to improve AI, you now have a million digital AI researchers that are testing and running experiments and inventing new forms of AI.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And literally not a single human on planet Earth knows what happens when someone hits that button.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It's like what people worried about with the first nuclear explosion, where there was like a chance to ignite the atmosphere because there'd be a chain reaction that set off.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And we don't know what happens when that chain reaction set off.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And there's this sort of chain reaction of AI improving itself that leads to a place that no one knows.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And it's not safe.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Like I think that the fundamental thing is

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

if people believe that AI is like power and I have to race for that power and I can control that power, the incentive is I have to race as fast as possible.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But if the entire world understood AI to be more what it actually is, which is a inscrutable, dangerous, uncontrollable technology that has its own agenda and its own ways of thinking about things and deceiving and all this stuff, then everyone in the world would be racing in a more cautious and careful way.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

We'd be racing to prevent the danger.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But there's this weird thing going on where if you and I probably both talk to people who are the top of the tech industry, and there's this subconscious thing happening where there's kind of a death wish among people at the top of the tech industry, meaning not that they want to die, but that they are willing to roll the dice because they believe something else, which is that this is all inevitable and it can't be stopped.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And so therefore, if I don't do it, someone else will.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So therefore, I will move ahead and race ahead into this dangerous world.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

because somehow that will lead to a safer world because I'm a better guy than the other guy.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But in racing, they're as fast as possible.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It creates the most dangerous outcome and we all lose control.

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#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So everyone is currently being complicit in taking us to the most dangerous outcome.