Tristan Harris

It's just like not rocket science.

We're not advocating against technology or against AI.

We're advocating for pro steering, steering and brakes.

You have to have that.

I think there's this mistake in arms race thinking that like, if you beat someone to a technology, that means you're winning the world.

Well, the US beat China to the technology of social media.

Did that make us stronger or did that make us weaker?

If you beat your adversary to a technology that then you govern poorly, you flip around the bazooka and blow your own brain off because you brain rotted yourself, you degraded your whole population, you created a loneliness crisis, the most anxious depressed generation in history.

Read Jonathan Haidt's book, The Anxious Generation.

You broke shared reality.

No one trusts each other.

Everyone's at each other's throats.

You maximized outrage, economy, and rivalry.

You beat China to a technology that you governed in a way that completely undermined your societal health and strength.

It's a Pyrrhic victory.

It's a Pyrrhic victory.

Exactly.

Well said.

This is an area where I'm not somewhat... The layer of the stack that I focus on, which is on societal impact, there are other people far more qualified than me to comment on that.

I think if you look at people like Dario, even though Gary Marcus has a point that the current LLM paradigm is not accurate enough and reliable enough to get you to AGI...