Tristan Harris

What happens when the companies and the countries don't need you anymore?

This is literally the last time that our political voice will matter.

And this is the time to express that voice in many different ways.

You can boycott unsafe AI companies or AI companies that enable mass surveillance.

What did we just see with the thing that went down with the Pentagon and Anthropic last week is that subscriptions for ChatGPT went down like tons and subscriptions for Anthropic went up by a lot.

If it wasn't just individuals that were doing that, but entire Fortune 500 companies that were doing that, given the amount of debt that these companies have taken on, the companies will have to respond to that market signal.

So mass boycotts can have a huge effect on steering which AI future we get.

Are we going to get mass surveillance?

Are we going to get a world where AI companies are incentivized to do the right things?

Absolutely.

What you're saying is super important, and this is not me saying everyone should just put their money into Anthropic and then the world will be fine.

In fact, there's actually a view by many people that...

Anthropic in some ways is dangerous because the view that it is the safest, it's the Volvo.

People know the Volvos are the safest cars.

They did a lot of marketing to present that.

People think that Anthropic is just the safe AI company.

So if they won, then suddenly everything is fine.

And that would be dangerous.

And that we have to have a critical view of the companies and the technology and the international limits that we need that are going to happen from outside and above the companies, not just what an individual company can do.

So I totally agree.