Tristan Harris

And anybody who's aware of these examples, this should be on the agenda to get AI under the agenda, specifically uncontrollable rogue AI stuff.

And there are people who have the technical ideas and measures for what you would do to prevent some of the worst case scenarios.

Those people should be in the room crafting that.

I will say to give people optimism even specifically about the US and China, look, we both know that our countries have historically claimed to do something in good faith or collaborate while basically secretly defecting on each other and fucking each other up.

It just happens.

I think it was 2014.

I think it was even President Xi signed an agreement with Obama to not do cyber hacking.

And the next day there was like the huge OPM hack or something like that.

So I want to just first do the disclaimer that I am maximally aware of the reasons why these countries cannot trust each other.

There has to be a carve out for the end of the world.

It seems reasonable that we can do that.

And have we even tried?

Has the world really said this really matters?

We need to do something.

We have to wake up from our stupor and actually wake up from this sort of state of desensitization and derealization.

And make that happen.

And just again, give this positive note of optimism.

In 2024, in the last meeting that the previous president had with President Xi, I think it was in San Francisco, there was a item that was added to the agenda at the last minute, actually personally requested, as I understand it, by President Xi.

which is an agreement to keep AI out of the nuclear command and control systems of both countries.

What this shows you is there's an existence proof that in a narrow case where we know that is an existential consequence, we may not be able to do laws to prevent autonomous weapons because we are way down that path.