Tristan Harris

And there's no definition of wisdom in literally any wisdom tradition that does not involve some kind of restraint.

Think about all the wisdom traditions.

Do any of them say, go as fast as possible and think as narrowly as possible?

The definition of wisdom is having a more holistic picture.

It's actually acting with restraint and mindfulness and care.

And so AI is asking us to be that version of ourselves.

And we can choose not to be, and then we end up in a bad world.

Or we can step into being what it's asking us to be and recognize the collective consequences that we can't afford to not face.

And I believe, as much as what we've talked about is really hard, that there is another path if we can be clear-eyed about the current one ending in a place that people don't want.

On certain things, we have crossed certain thresholds and we're going to automate those jobs and that work.

Do you think there will be immense job loss?

You think there will be?

So if you're a college level worker, you just graduated and you're doing something in an AI exposed area, there's already been a 13% job loss.

And that data was probably from May, even though it got published in August.

And having spoken to him recently, it looks like that trend is already continuing.

And so-

We're already seeing this automate a lot of the jobs and a lot of the work.

And, you know, either an AI company is going to – if you work in AI and you're one of the top AI scientists, then Mark Zuckerberg will give you a billion-dollar signing bonus, which is what he offered to one of the AI people.

Or you won't have a job.

Let me – that wasn't quite right.