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Tristan Harris

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2311 total appearances

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

That tells you which world we're going to get.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

There is no arguing with that.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And so if everybody just saw that clearly, we'd say, okay, great, let's not do that.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Let's not have that incentive, which starts with culture, public clarity that we say no to that bad outcome, to that path.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

And then with that clarity, what are the other solutions that we want?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

We can have narrow AI tutors that are non-anthropomorphic, that are not trying to be your best friend, that are not trying to be therapists at the same time that they're helping you with your homework, more like Khan Academy, which does those things.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So you can have carefully designed different kinds of AI tutors that are doing it the right way.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

You can have AI therapists that are not trying to say, tell me your most intimate thoughts and let me separate you from your mother, and instead do very limited kinds of therapy that are not screwing with your attachment.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So if I do cognitive behavioral therapy, I'm not screwing with your attachment system.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

We can have mandatory testing.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Currently, the companies are not mandated to do that safety testing.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

We can have common safety standards that they all do.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

we can have common transparency measures so that the public and the world's leading governments know what's going on inside these AI labs, especially before this recursive self-improvement threshold.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So that if we need to negotiate treaties between the largest countries on this,

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

they will have the information that they need to make that possible.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

We can have stronger whistleblower protections so that if you're a whistleblower and currently your incentives are, I would lose all of my stock options if I told the world the truth and those stock options are going up every day, we can empower whistleblowers with ways of sharing that information that don't risk losing their stock options.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So there's a whole, and we can have, instead of building general, inscrutable, autonomous, like dangerous AI that we don't know how to control, that blackmails people and is self-aware and copies its own code, we can build narrow AI systems that are about actually applied to the things that we want more of.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So, you know, making stronger and more efficient agriculture, better manufacturing, better educational services that would actually boost those areas of our economy without creating this risk that we don't know how to control.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

So there's a totally different way to do this if we were crystal clear that the current path is unacceptable.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Expert: We Have 2 Years Before Everything Changes! We Need To Start Protesting! - Tristan Harris

Let's not make it theoretical then because it's so important that it's just all crystal clear in here right now.