Tristan Harris
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
We believed that animals and life and all of this is sacred.
And then the example that Daniel gives is when you yoke an ox and you beat an ox every day, you can no longer fully believe in the animist view of life because you're basically...
hurting animals all day.
Can you believe that animals are sacred or that they experience suffering if you eat meat and factory farming every day?
It's a contradictory thing.
So as we get changes in technology, it changes what we value.
And there's a long history of this, and people should look up Marvin Harris.
When you get a change in technology called AI...
and you now no longer need humans for the narrowly defined, quote, value of economic output.
Now it's not clear the economic output on its own is actually valuable in the way that we have traditionally thought it to be because it's correlated with human wellbeing for the past.
But now we're about to get this weird kind of zombie form of economic output where you have maybe no humans in the world at all.
You just have AI pumping away, generating scientific insights and there's no humans.
In that world, you start to view humans as kind of valueless or like parasites or Sam Altman saying, well, it takes a lot of energy and resources to grow a human.
There's a very dangerous thing here that I think we don't want to lean into.
This is part of the anti-human future.
This is part of the intelligence curse.
This is part of Mark Zuckerberg saying, we need to replace your human relationships with AI relationships.
I don't know if you've seen this quote.
There's a clip of him online.
You can find it.