Tristan Harris
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Where he's talking about the average person has only like two or three close relationships.
Like people are so lonely.
He's like, oh, but then we thought that there was a real solution to this.
We could give people, you know, 11 AI friends and different friends and that this will quote solve loneliness.
A problem that he created, by the way, that social media writ large by maximizing engagement, which means maximizing how many hours you spend by yourself on a screen, not talking to people, which means being inside on a Tuesday night, not texting your friends to be out, which means basically maximizing loneliness.
Loneliness is a direct consequence with the maximize engagement economy.
Facebook and Instagram and all of that have massively fed into the trend of loneliness.
And then he's saying, we need to solve that with more technology.
So this is like a, this is like a company that's generating cancer on one side of the balance sheet and then selling you solutions to cancer on the other side of the balance sheet.
No, no, no, it won't.
Which is why the whole thing here is the answer is we have to coordinate.
In the film, the AI doc, there's just moments like, what do we have to do?
And there's like 10 voices at the same time saying, coordinate.
Like we have to coordinate.
That's part of the solution is you have to collectively say, what is the rule that would benefit everybody
to do the better thing, even though short term, we might lose something tiny, like how many videos you get to go through in five minutes or something like that.
Basically, this was a paper by some AI research by the company Alibaba.
It's one of the leading Chinese models.
And they basically randomly discovered in one morning that their firewall had flagged a burst of security policy violations originating from their training server.
So what people need to get about this example is...