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Tristan Harris

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Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It's making decisions.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

AI can contemplate AI and ask what would make the code that trains AI more efficient and then generate new code that's even more efficient than the previous code.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

AI can be applied to making AI go faster.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So AI can look at the chip design for Nvidia chips that train AI and say, let me use AI to make those chips 20% more efficient, which it's doing.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

In a way, all technology does improve.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Like a hammer can give you a tool that you can use to like hammer things that make more efficient hammers.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But AI in a much tighter loop is the basis of all improvement.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And so this is called in the AI literature, recursive self-improvement.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

I mean, Bostrom wrote about this early, early days.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And what people are most worried about in AI is you take the same system that Alibaba, you just saw in the Alibaba example,

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

But then now you're running the AI through a recursive self-improvement loop where you just hit go.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And instead of having the engineers, the human engineers at OpenAI or Anthropic do AI research and figure out how to improve AI, you now have a million digital AI researchers that are testing and running experiments and inventing new forms of AI.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And literally not a single human on planet Earth knows what happens when someone hits that button.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It's like what people worried about with the first nuclear explosion, where there was like a chance to ignite the atmosphere because there'd be a chain reaction that set off.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And we don't know what happens when that chain reaction set off.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And there's this sort of chain reaction of AI improving itself that leads to a place that no one knows.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And it's not safe.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Like I think that the fundamental thing is

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

if people believe that AI is like power and I have to race for that power and I can control that power, the incentive is I have to race as fast as possible.