Tristan Hughes

So actually they can really get rich quick, might be going a bit too far, but they can get money in through almost putting a toll through the wall, as the Romans had done before.

Exactly.

Well, here's another speculation for you.

If we focus just quickly on the Dux Britanniorum.

Could it potentially be that that figure kind of stays in York or whoever kind of succeeds and stays in York and becomes like the big warlord around the York area?

But that will be the precursor to the kingdom of Northumbria and the person who takes, obviously the angle of whoever becomes king of that region.

So almost that Roman position there, whoever endures in that position after the canonical date of 408-410,

is actually the forerunner to the king of Northumbria.

Wrecked, yes.

Subgroup with their centers initially, at least at the forts along Hadrian's Wall, where the centers of power-

But it is just so fascinating how maybe for as much as a century, maybe not, it may be a bit more.

that you do have as nodes of power, you know, these false long Hadrians will... I've got them on my notes.

We didn't really get to talk about them too much, but I think I'll just mention a minute.

The Brigo Maglos, a certain kind of warlord who's maybe potential theory that he's a warlord in one of those communities, right?

So interesting.

But to kind of wrap up, Rob, does it very much seem that...

The fall of Hadrian's Wall, it has certainly happened by the end of the 6th century, beginning of the 7th century.

By that time, those forts, which have this fascinating afterlife, they're no longer centres of power for these war bands.

Those have moved elsewhere.

And what you ultimately have along Hadrian's Wall now are just either small Christian communities or farming communities.