Tristan Tate

But they are widely considered by every single Christian in the world as the spawning point.

These are the people who kept the lights on, so to speak.

I know non-denominational Christians.

It was actually a non-denominational Christian who introduced me to your work and your podcast for the first time.

He's my cameraman.

Oh, wow.

He's from Texas.

He says, you got to see this guy.

And that's the first time I ever saw your face.

But I feel like...

we all understand that there was a time in the world where everything was very dark, people couldn't read, people couldn't write, people only went to the church for knowledge.

And in these monasteries I visit in, whether it be a Catholic monastery in Italy or an Orthodox monastery in Romania or Greece, these are the exact same places that kept the lights on and kept the message alive.

for the torch to eventually arrive in the United States and give rise to everybody else.

So I think it's just, I guess, a Genesis thing where people really believe that this is the original church and they're looking into these denominations.

I encourage anybody to look into it if you have time.

However, I think being Christian today is enough in 2026.

Well, yeah, and it's the feeling I get, certainly, because I've been to churches here in California, actually.

What's the name of it?

I was in a place called Shingle Springs up near San Francisco, and it was called the Green Valley Church, run by a guy, ironically, named Mike Sinner.

And I went to one service there.