Trita Parsi

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3,028 appearances 17 recordings 5 series first heard Apr 2025 last heard 11 Sep

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I think the eventual structure of the situation is that is that the US is gonna have to accept some sort of arrangement on this that is more to the liking of Iran than the US, but it will
It will nevertheless meet the minimum uh key interest, which is to make sure that the strait is open.
And then the focus gonna have to shift to the nuclear issue.
So a couple of points.
You're absolutely right.
I think there's a very strong argument to be made.
And I know that it has been made within the Ukrainian system, particularly from the military, in which they don't like this idea at all, because they expect that Ukraine will get into the Iran war without the US getting into the Russia war.
And the calculation on Zelensky's side appears to be, I mean, you just have to listen to what he's been saying as of late, that the return on investment actually is a positive one for Ukraine.
Because if the US fully enters the war with Russia, which is something Ukraine has tried to achieve since 2022, from their standpoint, it makes sense, then it is worth it, but only if in that case.
Otherwise, you're absolutely right, Ukraine would further overextend itself and now.
have uh the Iranians attacking them in a manner that would be
Quite devastating, of course, particularly mindful of the fact that the Ukrainians are very low on their interceptors.
But the entire calculation only makes sense if you can drag the US into the Russia war.
Now, again, it seems like his visit here was not particularly successful.
Where I think you're absolutely right, Schenk, is that the one country that truly would view this as very desirable is Israel.
One
It would prolong the Iran war.
And this is something that the Israelis, I mean, not only did they push to start it, they pushed very strongly against uh the MOU.
They were very upset about it, and they're terribly happy that the MOU more or less has collapsed and we're back at war.
Secondly, it would bring the Europeans into the Iran war as well.
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