Tyrus

And I think as we look now at the party and we look at the mechanics of the party, which I think he digs into in this interview, saying, listen—

I hated it as a candidate, but the team around me were all 20-somethings and 30-somethings, and they made me do things I didn't like to do.

They made my schedule crazy.

But that's how we won.

They had energy.

It was—he called it the beloved community.

He referred to Dr. King when he talked about this idea of a community where everybody's excited about a thing, and they're rallied around a thing.

And he sort of hearkens the Mamdani campaign, not for their policies, but the energy that they created in the city of New York.

And what the Democratic Party needs to return to is that type of energy, not 50-somethings and 60-somethings running.

I would like to push back real quick.

The one thing that Barack Obama and President Trump have in common is that they are—

communicators of a higher cost, like their brilliance.

When they're called on something, you're never going to see Obama or president Trump asked a question that they can't answer.

Even if they don't know the answer, you're not going to know it because they just, they're, they're always prepared.

And I think one of the people would be like, well,

Obama's time's up and he sees that there's not going to be someone like him.

He talks about the youth, what we're seeing and we'll talk about later.

No one's showing the brilliance.

That's right.

They're all on both sides.