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Good. And he said the same thing that Aaron said, that he was with... Sandy Perkins, Pearl Perkins, whatever you call them. And they were working on a tractor on the side of the house when Heidi went jogging.

Good. And he said the same thing that Aaron said, that he was with... Sandy Perkins, Pearl Perkins, whatever you call them. And they were working on a tractor on the side of the house when Heidi went jogging.

I don't know, like just gut check. It didn't seem like he was trying to be evasive at all. Good, good, good, good. And then He reiterated his belief that Paul Oaks could have done it. Oh, my God. So they said that they weren't allowed to attend the trial, and that's because both of them were asked to take the stand. Really? I mean, that happens.

I don't know, like just gut check. It didn't seem like he was trying to be evasive at all. Good, good, good, good. And then He reiterated his belief that Paul Oaks could have done it. Oh, my God. So they said that they weren't allowed to attend the trial, and that's because both of them were asked to take the stand. Really? I mean, that happens.

That, like, if you're going to testify, you shouldn't hear the rest of the testimonies, you know? Ah, gotcha, gotcha. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, everything checks out. The only thing I did not ask him was about Megan, which I kind of regret. But I did ask him point blank. I was like, I mean, you know, you know what April thinks that it could possibly have been you. And he didn't get defensive at all.

That, like, if you're going to testify, you shouldn't hear the rest of the testimonies, you know? Ah, gotcha, gotcha. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, everything checks out. The only thing I did not ask him was about Megan, which I kind of regret. But I did ask him point blank. I was like, I mean, you know, you know what April thinks that it could possibly have been you. And he didn't get defensive at all.

He's like, yeah, I understand. Like, it's usually the father. Like, I get it.

He's like, yeah, I understand. Like, it's usually the father. Like, I get it.

Yeah, I mean, they said off the bat, like, they haven't done a good job communicating to their children about, you know, that day and their feelings and stuff. And they both said it was just too painful. That's why they couldn't. But they realized that, you know, they need to open up that line and maybe, maybe this is the start of it. I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, they said off the bat, like, they haven't done a good job communicating to their children about, you know, that day and their feelings and stuff. And they both said it was just too painful. That's why they couldn't. But they realized that, you know, they need to open up that line and maybe, maybe this is the start of it. I don't know.

I mean, we tried to, I tried to drill down on timing and stuff. Um, and what they said, what they could remember really matches up with what Steve said and, you know, what was reported at the time. Like there was no, you know, fudging of the timeline.

I mean, we tried to, I tried to drill down on timing and stuff. Um, and what they said, what they could remember really matches up with what Steve said and, you know, what was reported at the time. Like there was no, you know, fudging of the timeline.

I really wish she was still living.

I really wish she was still living.

I need to find her and get her on record.

I need to find her and get her on record.

Hi there. Nice to meet you. Uh, I'm the journalist who's been working with, uh, Megan.

Hi there. Nice to meet you. Uh, I'm the journalist who's been working with, uh, Megan.

Uh, indeed. Thank you so much for saying that. Uh, yeah, it's been gosh, a little over a year and a half now that I've been diving in and it was only recently that I realized that you were part of the search party.

Uh, indeed. Thank you so much for saying that. Uh, yeah, it's been gosh, a little over a year and a half now that I've been diving in and it was only recently that I realized that you were part of the search party.