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I don't disagree, essentially, but they fucked up and they fucked up and they and they created false associations. And I'm sorry, I'm going to have to call it out. You know, it's like that. That's just kind of what we got to do, man. We got to keep it. But I see your point. And we're getting personal now. I know like Bill Whitaker and I know Graham.

I don't disagree, essentially, but they fucked up and they fucked up and they and they created false associations. And I'm sorry, I'm going to have to call it out. You know, it's like that. That's just kind of what we got to do, man. We got to keep it. But I see your point. And we're getting personal now. I know like Bill Whitaker and I know Graham.

Yes, they're creating something in a big media platform that is important. And I do applaud them for that. But we got to get certain things right. So let me start with you just did a report about one of the incursions. And I just want to kind of hear your perspective on that and about what 60 Minutes came up with in your reporting.

Yes, they're creating something in a big media platform that is important. And I do applaud them for that. But we got to get certain things right. So let me start with you just did a report about one of the incursions. And I just want to kind of hear your perspective on that and about what 60 Minutes came up with in your reporting.

Yes, they're creating something in a big media platform that is important. And I do applaud them for that. But we got to get certain things right. So let me start with you just did a report about one of the incursions. And I just want to kind of hear your perspective on that and about what 60 Minutes came up with in your reporting.

Yeah. I mean, if you're doing what they call like a red force operation, you know, where you're trying to see the vulnerabilities by doing these tests to see how they respond, you're going to notify the base commander. You're going to notify the people that need to know so that they don't have some kind of unconditioned response that is bad. So it's foolish. It's ridiculous.

Yeah. I mean, if you're doing what they call like a red force operation, you know, where you're trying to see the vulnerabilities by doing these tests to see how they respond, you're going to notify the base commander. You're going to notify the people that need to know so that they don't have some kind of unconditioned response that is bad. So it's foolish. It's ridiculous.

Yeah. I mean, if you're doing what they call like a red force operation, you know, where you're trying to see the vulnerabilities by doing these tests to see how they respond, you're going to notify the base commander. You're going to notify the people that need to know so that they don't have some kind of unconditioned response that is bad. So it's foolish. It's ridiculous.

It's like the White House coming out and saying, oh, nothing to see here. All of these things were FAA approved. We know that to not be true, not only from internal comms that we've seen, but from, you know, people high up in these regulatory bodies being like, if it was the FAA, we didn't know. So it's almost fundamentally ridiculous. But when you get Wall Street Journal in 60 minutes, kind of,

It's like the White House coming out and saying, oh, nothing to see here. All of these things were FAA approved. We know that to not be true, not only from internal comms that we've seen, but from, you know, people high up in these regulatory bodies being like, if it was the FAA, we didn't know. So it's almost fundamentally ridiculous. But when you get Wall Street Journal in 60 minutes, kind of,

It's like the White House coming out and saying, oh, nothing to see here. All of these things were FAA approved. We know that to not be true, not only from internal comms that we've seen, but from, you know, people high up in these regulatory bodies being like, if it was the FAA, we didn't know. So it's almost fundamentally ridiculous. But when you get Wall Street Journal in 60 minutes, kind of,

Moving over parts of the topic, especially 60 Minutes, inaccurately, then we have a real, Houston, we got a problem. And so, yeah, want to talk about a couple of those problems just so people get the facts right.

Moving over parts of the topic, especially 60 Minutes, inaccurately, then we have a real, Houston, we got a problem. And so, yeah, want to talk about a couple of those problems just so people get the facts right.

Moving over parts of the topic, especially 60 Minutes, inaccurately, then we have a real, Houston, we got a problem. And so, yeah, want to talk about a couple of those problems just so people get the facts right.

Absolutely. And so like, you know, again, we have to like redefine the word drone and explain like what, you know, people can label things as like UAS started popping up, unmanned. aerial system, let's say, you know, all these words are given to them because that is what they identify and can identify them as.

Absolutely. And so like, you know, again, we have to like redefine the word drone and explain like what, you know, people can label things as like UAS started popping up, unmanned. aerial system, let's say, you know, all these words are given to them because that is what they identify and can identify them as.

Absolutely. And so like, you know, again, we have to like redefine the word drone and explain like what, you know, people can label things as like UAS started popping up, unmanned. aerial system, let's say, you know, all these words are given to them because that is what they identify and can identify them as.

But we've actually talked with the people who wrote those terms, who actually wrote those down on USS Russell, on USS Omaha. We know why they wrote the words that they wrote. So we'll get into that. But let me start with the first thing. In the 60 Minutes report, it says they were shadowed for weeks by dozens of drones. Okay, they weren't shadowed for weeks.

But we've actually talked with the people who wrote those terms, who actually wrote those down on USS Russell, on USS Omaha. We know why they wrote the words that they wrote. So we'll get into that. But let me start with the first thing. In the 60 Minutes report, it says they were shadowed for weeks by dozens of drones. Okay, they weren't shadowed for weeks.

But we've actually talked with the people who wrote those terms, who actually wrote those down on USS Russell, on USS Omaha. We know why they wrote the words that they wrote. So we'll get into that. But let me start with the first thing. In the 60 Minutes report, it says they were shadowed for weeks by dozens of drones. Okay, they weren't shadowed for weeks.