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Well, I was looking for an endogenous compound for spiritual experience. I kind of came up with this fascination in college that believing that there was a part of the brain or a substance the brain made that created spiritual experience that spiritual experiences which were like the psychedelic drug one and spiritual experiences like those brought about by meditation.

I thought there was some common biological factor that was activated in both those states. So the pineal gland was the first place I looked. I was at Stanford at the time. Jim Fadiman was there as well. Jim gave me the idea to look into the pineal. And I found out about melatonin, which nobody knew much about the human physiology back then in the early 1980s.

I thought there was some common biological factor that was activated in both those states. So the pineal gland was the first place I looked. I was at Stanford at the time. Jim Fadiman was there as well. Jim gave me the idea to look into the pineal. And I found out about melatonin, which nobody knew much about the human physiology back then in the early 1980s.

I thought there was some common biological factor that was activated in both those states. So the pineal gland was the first place I looked. I was at Stanford at the time. Jim Fadiman was there as well. Jim gave me the idea to look into the pineal. And I found out about melatonin, which nobody knew much about the human physiology back then in the early 1980s.

So there was some evidence that it was psychedelic that made dreams more intense. You know, all by itself might be psychedelic. So we studied melatonin. I was wondering if the pineal gland was that substance responsible for psychedelic experiences. Oh, interesting. Spiritual ones which had psychedelic properties.

So there was some evidence that it was psychedelic that made dreams more intense. You know, all by itself might be psychedelic. So we studied melatonin. I was wondering if the pineal gland was that substance responsible for psychedelic experiences. Oh, interesting. Spiritual ones which had psychedelic properties.

So there was some evidence that it was psychedelic that made dreams more intense. You know, all by itself might be psychedelic. So we studied melatonin. I was wondering if the pineal gland was that substance responsible for psychedelic experiences. Oh, interesting. Spiritual ones which had psychedelic properties.

Well, my understanding is that tryptophan is the precursor for melatonin, that it begins with dietary tryptophan. Oh, interesting. Dietary tryptophan. And that gets modified to melatonin, ultimately. Melanopsin, gosh, I think that's a protein or an enzyme. Okay.

Well, my understanding is that tryptophan is the precursor for melatonin, that it begins with dietary tryptophan. Oh, interesting. Dietary tryptophan. And that gets modified to melatonin, ultimately. Melanopsin, gosh, I think that's a protein or an enzyme. Okay.

Well, my understanding is that tryptophan is the precursor for melatonin, that it begins with dietary tryptophan. Oh, interesting. Dietary tryptophan. And that gets modified to melatonin, ultimately. Melanopsin, gosh, I think that's a protein or an enzyme. Okay.

This might be a good pee break time.

This might be a good pee break time.

This might be a good pee break time.

My Altered States. Yeah, that came out in December. Yeah, it's an illustrated memoir of my altered state experiences in youth. Yeah, and a number of them are psychedelic experiences. First time I smoked cannabis was psychedelic. First time I took LSD. First time I, like, dissolved into nothing. Yeah. Maybe one half or so of the chapters involve psychedelic experiences. Oh, wow.

My Altered States. Yeah, that came out in December. Yeah, it's an illustrated memoir of my altered state experiences in youth. Yeah, and a number of them are psychedelic experiences. First time I smoked cannabis was psychedelic. First time I took LSD. First time I, like, dissolved into nothing. Yeah. Maybe one half or so of the chapters involve psychedelic experiences. Oh, wow.

My Altered States. Yeah, that came out in December. Yeah, it's an illustrated memoir of my altered state experiences in youth. Yeah, and a number of them are psychedelic experiences. First time I smoked cannabis was psychedelic. First time I took LSD. First time I, like, dissolved into nothing. Yeah. Maybe one half or so of the chapters involve psychedelic experiences. Oh, wow.

Yeah, and there's some from meditation, some from depression, some from actual physical abuse, the altered state that happens then. Yeah, and a friend of mine illustrated it, a gal from Alabama, Marilee Chalice. I think the images really are impressive. They help convey much more of the feeling aspect of the experiences than the written word alone can.

Yeah, and there's some from meditation, some from depression, some from actual physical abuse, the altered state that happens then. Yeah, and a friend of mine illustrated it, a gal from Alabama, Marilee Chalice. I think the images really are impressive. They help convey much more of the feeling aspect of the experiences than the written word alone can.

Yeah, and there's some from meditation, some from depression, some from actual physical abuse, the altered state that happens then. Yeah, and a friend of mine illustrated it, a gal from Alabama, Marilee Chalice. I think the images really are impressive. They help convey much more of the feeling aspect of the experiences than the written word alone can.

Yeah, like I've never vaped DMT.