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Well, I think what you're talking about is the source of the visions. Was it just coming from them, or was it just an amplification of what was in their minds? Or was it coming from above, like an objective, freestanding source of information? So that's the difference, I think, between them.

Well, I think what you're talking about is the source of the visions. Was it just coming from them, or was it just an amplification of what was in their minds? Or was it coming from above, like an objective, freestanding source of information? So that's the difference, I think, between them.

top-down model where the divine communicates us through the visions or a bottom-up one, in which case it's just amplification of what's already there and uncovering.

top-down model where the divine communicates us through the visions or a bottom-up one, in which case it's just amplification of what's already there and uncovering.

top-down model where the divine communicates us through the visions or a bottom-up one, in which case it's just amplification of what's already there and uncovering.

Well, you'd have to go into more detail, I think, if you're going to talk about revitalizing any religion. What exactly would that mean? Would it mean more art coming out of the sect? Would it mean more literature or more involvement in the political system? Yeah, I think reviving any religion, I mean, what are you going to focus on?

Well, you'd have to go into more detail, I think, if you're going to talk about revitalizing any religion. What exactly would that mean? Would it mean more art coming out of the sect? Would it mean more literature or more involvement in the political system? Yeah, I think reviving any religion, I mean, what are you going to focus on?

Well, you'd have to go into more detail, I think, if you're going to talk about revitalizing any religion. What exactly would that mean? Would it mean more art coming out of the sect? Would it mean more literature or more involvement in the political system? Yeah, I think reviving any religion, I mean, what are you going to focus on?

Yeah. Well, I think it has to do with the source of the information. Is it just from the people themselves or from God? And like you're talking about the lack of a need for any new religion, I think it has to do with the unity of a teaching with God. So you'd have to focus on the notion of God, which is a very controversial notion.

Yeah. Well, I think it has to do with the source of the information. Is it just from the people themselves or from God? And like you're talking about the lack of a need for any new religion, I think it has to do with the unity of a teaching with God. So you'd have to focus on the notion of God, which is a very controversial notion.

Yeah. Well, I think it has to do with the source of the information. Is it just from the people themselves or from God? And like you're talking about the lack of a need for any new religion, I think it has to do with the unity of a teaching with God. So you'd have to focus on the notion of God, which is a very controversial notion.

Yeah, I've heard Buber describe it as the most maligned of all words. And therefore, Martin Buber, he was a German Jewish theologian. Yeah, that it was the most overused or abused word in the language. God? God, the word God, yeah, with a capital G. And therefore, worthy of the most study and discussion, rather than avoiding it.

Yeah, I've heard Buber describe it as the most maligned of all words. And therefore, Martin Buber, he was a German Jewish theologian. Yeah, that it was the most overused or abused word in the language. God? God, the word God, yeah, with a capital G. And therefore, worthy of the most study and discussion, rather than avoiding it.

Yeah, I've heard Buber describe it as the most maligned of all words. And therefore, Martin Buber, he was a German Jewish theologian. Yeah, that it was the most overused or abused word in the language. God? God, the word God, yeah, with a capital G. And therefore, worthy of the most study and discussion, rather than avoiding it.

Well, if you look at the first DMT book, you know, there's a molecular, you know, drawing of the DMT molecule and that was written by a former Jesuit.

Well, if you look at the first DMT book, you know, there's a molecular, you know, drawing of the DMT molecule and that was written by a former Jesuit.

Well, if you look at the first DMT book, you know, there's a molecular, you know, drawing of the DMT molecule and that was written by a former Jesuit.

Oh wow. Yeah. Turned to chemist.

Oh wow. Yeah. Turned to chemist.

Oh wow. Yeah. Turned to chemist.