Unnamed Speaker 1

The history of maps is very interesting, Rick's history. I've known Rick since 85, 84.

Well, especially for any kind of substance, any kind of drug with a lot of mind-altering characteristics. If the research team has been indoctrinated, let's say, in a particular model and to the influence of psychedelics, that's going to affect their treatment of a person in a psychedelic state.

Well, especially for any kind of substance, any kind of drug with a lot of mind-altering characteristics. If the research team has been indoctrinated, let's say, in a particular model and to the influence of psychedelics, that's going to affect their treatment of a person in a psychedelic state.

Well, especially for any kind of substance, any kind of drug with a lot of mind-altering characteristics. If the research team has been indoctrinated, let's say, in a particular model and to the influence of psychedelics, that's going to affect their treatment of a person in a psychedelic state.

Well, I think it'd be interesting to compare and that comparison has never been done. It wouldn't be that hard a study to do.

Well, I think it'd be interesting to compare and that comparison has never been done. It wouldn't be that hard a study to do.

Well, I think it'd be interesting to compare and that comparison has never been done. It wouldn't be that hard a study to do.

Yeah, but I think as a result of your experiences, you would be coming in with a mindset based on your own experiences. And if you hadn't experienced it, then you would just be coming in clinically, let's say.

Yeah, but I think as a result of your experiences, you would be coming in with a mindset based on your own experiences. And if you hadn't experienced it, then you would just be coming in clinically, let's say.

Yeah, but I think as a result of your experiences, you would be coming in with a mindset based on your own experiences. And if you hadn't experienced it, then you would just be coming in clinically, let's say.

Yeah, it would be more of a blank slate. You wouldn't have as many preconceptions about what was going to happen to the person and how to interpret it.

Yeah, it would be more of a blank slate. You wouldn't have as many preconceptions about what was going to happen to the person and how to interpret it.

Yeah, it would be more of a blank slate. You wouldn't have as many preconceptions about what was going to happen to the person and how to interpret it.

I met John Lilly.

I met John Lilly.

I met John Lilly.

Well, I think he was very interested in human-animal communication.

Well, I think he was very interested in human-animal communication.

Well, I think he was very interested in human-animal communication.

And he thought LSD might enhance that. Yeah, between humans on dolphins, both on acid. They would be telepathic, like we were talking about earlier.