Van Lathan

And I think this movie does a very, very great job with how they play with time, how they play with what you know and when you know it.

Basically, to your point, being like, wait, but when does the hero decide to actually sacrifice himself?

And you realize, I'm just like, oh, we're seeing it happen in real time.

And that's a great part of it.

It's funny, none of the, none of the more emotional, profound stuff worked on me.

It was all like, because it was, I think Lord and Miller, what they're actually really good at,

is when you take 21 Trump Street or the Spider-Verse movies or how much, like, kind of the bones of Han Solo, I think they are very... You get this sense that they are kids playing with toys, where it's just, like, there is, like, a freedom.

Anything can happen.

And even in the joke structure, they're just throwing so much stuff at you.

And I think it makes... I can tell why they were chose for this project because...

You need that between Gosling and Rocky.

You need that sense of play.

I just don't know, like... I was that sad.

I think I tend to like Ryan Gosling when he is more in like the drive Blade Runner facet of his career.

And I think what Barbie helped him to do is like,

tap into something where I think like the first time around in his career, maybe he wasn't ready for it, which is just like the, oh, not only am I going to be the leading man, I'm going to be like the charming leading man.

And that's, I think he like made a very, very clear decision to be like, I'm going to take some weird fucking roles and show you my range.

And I think this is, it makes sense that he's at this part in his career where it's just like, no, I'm stepping back out here now.

Like I'm the person, Fall Guy, Barbie,

Project Hail Mary to me all makes sense in terms of like the movie star trajectory.