Van Lathan

But I think I feel the same way about Brad Pitt.

I tend to like Brad Pitt when he less has to be like leading, leading man in front and gets to kind of be a weirdo on the side.

And I don't think that makes the performance bad.

I mean, he, he, he, well, he only God forgives the stoicism in like Nelson, all of that.

But do you think that's the difference between when you lean on the science in science fiction versus the fiction, where it's like, most people aren't Luke Skywalker.

Most people aren't, this isn't Doom.

You know what I'm saying?

I think the thing that makes Ryan Gosling relatable and gives his character so much room to grow is that like,

99.9% of people would be like, I'm not going because he's not trained to do it.

You know what I mean?

To me, that almost made me love him more because I'm just like, yeah, of course I would not want to go.

He does not have anything mooring him to earth.

And what I think is so interesting about his journey, and I think is something very smart that Lord and Miller decide is like,

they punctuate the movies with a lot of him watching Earth.

And it's like, I think it's something so true to life where it's like, you might be miserable at home, but it's home.

And it's not until you leave that you realize maybe you weren't living.

Maybe you weren't connecting.

And I think that that's what makes his sacrifice at the end so grand is because he finally gets it, what he realized he didn't know he wanted, and then he sacrifices it all for his friend.

Well, we're getting you there.

You like, damn.