Vanan Murugesan

Yeah, sure, sure.

Let me so I'm going to use God,

You're putting me in a spot where I feel like I'm picking favorites here, then I'm going to get a phone call right after.

And they're just doing gangbusters.

And this is a...

So one of my favorite, so I think one key thing that is in common with all immigrant serving newsrooms that I've observed is the lack of adherence to certain practices that traditional media tends to follow.

A story of a local of a local news outlet filling the vacuum for a community that was just completely underserved.

We know that there are geographic news deserts, but sometimes there are community news deserts.

And I think what the Sahan Journal was able to essentially a gap they were able to fill is for.

And so one of my favorite stories is from Connector Arizona.

So the founder is Maritza Felix.

A community news organization that doesn't just meet them subject on the subject matters that they care about, but also on the platforms that they use.

and i'm going to butcher her origin story but it's pretty cool for what it's worth during covet pandemic you know her mom who lives on the other side of the border would she'll be on the phone with her mother talking about covet precautionary stuff and all that stuff and her mom was receiving incorrect information and so she would spend a lot of time just speaking to her mother over the phone she said and maritza is a journalist herself and and that that phone call became

And I think this is something a lot of traditional newsrooms don't realize.

the various ways immigrant communities get their information.

There are a lot different apps than the apps you see, whether it's WhatsApp being a big one, even Telegram.

And so the work that the Sahan Journal has done there, I think, will serve as something of for some of you out there in this space.

in my mind it became like an audio newsletter because right now

There's going to be a lot to learn.

So without further ado, let me bring Vaughn into the conversation.