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Varsha Venugopal

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So, so far, we haven't seen any extreme backlash on spamming.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

What you're describing seems like something we call an impact bond.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

It's social impact bond and development space is called a development impact bond.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So no, it's a great idea.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And there have been some innovations around this.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

The challenge is getting the government to pay for it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So in the impact bond model, you would have an investor who puts in the money and

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And then you would have the government or some philanthropist who would be paying the investor the returns if we meet certain milestones.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

It is something we may want to explore ourselves, even from a philanthropic perspective.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

If a philanthropist were to say, right, I would pay you a certain amount, but the next tranche would only be released.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

if you meet certain milestones around number of people reached, etc.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So it's absolutely plausible.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

The challenge is in the past with impact bonds is getting governments to fund or getting the grander bit is usually the challenge.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Yeah, I think the big question is who's paying them or any company.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And that's where it comes to knots.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We have been, and especially me, when I think about my time in fundraising, I am quite keen to see, are there any ways we could make this revenue generating?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Sadly, the kind of people we want to reach are not the income paying companies.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

community and and there's no way we could we could you know figure out a finance model there so yeah impact bond is the only one i have actually come up with as well where at least there is some clear incentives tied to certain milestones and some funding attached to it but beyond that yes it's it seems very clearly in the charity non-profit space

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Yes, I was part of their first cohort.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think they just had their third cohort go through this summer.